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Girl Scout group trying to save camp property

Volunteers will have an additional opportunity for input through the following discussion forums:

April 1, 2003 at 6:30 pm
Blue Ash Recreation Center, 4433 Cooper Rd. (Near Cooper Rd. and Reed Hartman Hwy.)

April 9, 2003 at 6:30 pm
White Oak Presbyterian Church, 8735 Cheviot Rd.

If a volunteer from your service unit is planning to attend, please ask him or her to R.S.V.P. by calling or e-mailing Hope Schultz, at the Girl Scout Office, extension 102, (hschultz@grgsc.org) with their name, service unit, phone number, and the meeting that they plan to attend.

 PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING  INFORMATION      IMMEDIATELY AND FORWARD THIS INFORMATION ON TO ANY/ALL GIRL SCOUT MEMBERS YOU KNOW  .

It has recently come to the attention of a few volunteers that Great Rivers Girl Scout Council has received an offer from a large developer to purchase Camp Timber Hill.  At a meeting held on December 16, 2002 Barbara Bonifas(Executive Director) and Susan Osborn (Assistant Executive Director)presented information about the possible sale of this Camp.Only seven volunteers were present at this meeting to voice their opinions. A few volunteers who could not attend the meeting were contacted via telephone(per Susan Osborn).

The following is information given to the volunteers at the December 16 meeting: An offer of $20,000/acre has been made by Dixon Builders for Camp Timber Hill.
Fears of increased vandalism and girl safety due to urban growth and proposed housing development near camp cited as reason to sell property.Camp Timber Hill has not been sold yet.  Paid staff cannot make this decision.  The Board of Directors will make their decision based on the information given to them by the Executive Director and Assistant Executive Director.

Proposal of purchase by Dixon Builders will be discussed at the January 15 Board Meeting.There is no guarantee how the money from the sale of camp will be used. Once again, this decision will be made by the Board.There MAY be discussion about this topic at the February 1 delegate meeting.


What can you do about this?  How can you get involved?  We need every Girl Scout Leader, Girl Member, Delegate and Girl Scout Parent to attend an informational meeting about the possible sale of Camp Timber Hill.  Clear
your schedules, mark your calendars and attend this meeting scheduled for:
MONDAY, JANUARY 6, 2003 7:00 PM
DISCIPLES CHRISTIAN CHURCH
3401 HAMILTON-MASON RD
CORNER OF BY-PASS 4 AND HAMILTON MASON RD, JUST SOUTH OF THE MICHAEL FOX HIGHWAY
FAIRFIELD TOWNSHIP
It is vital to the preservation of Camp Timber Hill that you attend this meeting.Do not assume that someone else will take care of this for you. Do not depend on others to voice your opinion. If you care about this camp it is your responsibility to come to this meeting, obtain the facts and make your voice heard.  One or two people cannot preserve this camp on their own. One or two Service Units will not make a difference. The Board of Directors needs to know this camp is important to every girl member and every volunteer Council wide before their discussion takes place on January 15.  Clear your schedules and mark your calendars for this very important meeting.  Together we can make a difference.


Things to think about before attending this meeting:
When will this proposed development take place - 1 yr, 5 yr, 10 yr?
Is increased vandalism due to the proposed housing development guaranteed or is this just a fear?
Has vandalism been a problem at other camps located within Great Rivers jurisdiction?  If so, how did they solve this problem?
If necessary, what can we do to improve security at Camp Timber Hill?
Can we gain something positive from the proposed development near camp?
What will you, our girls, the community and our Council be losing if the Board of Directors approves the sale of Camp Timber Hill?
Would you, our girls, the community and our Council gain anything by preserving these 58 acres of woodland?
2,580 campers used Camp Timber Hill in 2001.  Will there be room for these displaced campers at other Council Camps if Timber Hill is sold?
What will happen to the four Day Camps (five in 2004) that use Camp Timber Hill?  Would moving these day camps to publicly owned land, such as a park,be a feasible solution?
What can we do to make our voices heard?
Once again, clear your schedules, mark your calendars and attend the informational meeting about the possible sale of Camp Timber Hill on
January 6.  Please copy and distribute or forward this email on to girls,leaders,delegates, parents, etc.  Together we are 30,000 registered
members strong.  Together all of us can make a difference.
 
Feel free to contact the following volunteers (who were present at the December 16 meeting) for more information:
Kris Roselle
Day Camp Director VIII-B
North Star
Patti McDonald
Service Unit Manager
North Star
 

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January 5, 2003
Girl Scout group trying to save camp property
Builders purchase land for homes
 
 
Fairfield Township- Parents and local Girl Scout leaders want to save an area camp following an offer made to purchase it by a real estate developer. In December, Dixon Builders, which has developed other projects such as Jessie's Landing in Fairfield Township, made an offer to the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council to purchase Camp Timber Hill, said Mark Schraffenberger, director of development for Dixon Builders.
  We made them a sizable offer for the property, he said, which is about $20,000 per acre for the nearly 60-acre site located off Ohio 4 in Fairfield Township.
  The offer was made because "we have a piece of property thats abuts the Girl Scout piece" Schraffenberger said. "We went to the Girl Scouts just to let them know that we would be doing some development."
  The planned development is 110 single-family homes on a 60-acre site, which may be duplicated on a second site also adjacent to Camp Timber Hill. The commercial and residential development in Fairfield Township will inevitably make the property unsuitable as a Girl Scout camp, he said.
  "The growth-that's going to continue. We think that we gave them a fair offer for the property and that it will give them the opportunity, if they want to, to buy two or three times as much land in another area," Schraffenberger said.
  "Camp Timber Hill is not for sale," said Roni Luckenbill, assistant executive director of the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council.
  However she said, "An unsolicited offer has been recieved for the camp." The offer will be reviewed with the board of directors of the Great Rivers Council.
  But Schraffenberger said Dixon Builders was invited by the Girl Scout council to make an offer after he notified them of houseing projects on property adjoining the camp in November.
  Some parents and local Girl Scout leaders want to save the camp and are meeting at 7 p.m. Monday at the Disciples Christian Church, 3401 Hamilton Mason Road, Fairfield Township.
  "This is the only camp we have in Butler County." said Wanda LeMaster, a Hamilton leader of a cadette senior troop for girls ages 11 to 17. "Selling it would be a bad idea."
  The camp property includes administrative buildings, Brownie Girl Scout shelter, three platform tent units, treehouses, Frisbee golf course, butterfly garden and grassy fields for sports and games. The camp is primarily used for day camps in the summer, LeMaster said.
  Representatives of the Great Rivers Council will not attend Monday's meeting because it does not provide an opportunity for all 9,000 volunteers to participate, said Board President Nancy Dawes in a letter, which was posted on the Internet.
  "Whereas I applaud your enthusiasm and interest in this issue, I cannot support board attendance at the Jan. 6 meeting, as your current information does not accurately represent the board position- nor have you givin the board the opportunity to do its job of establishing procedures to (ensure) that we both get and share accurate informatiom." Dawes stated in her letter.
  Though representatives will not be in attendence, Dawes invited the group to foward a summary of input from Monday's meeting to the board.
  The Girl Scout council is concerned with maintaining girl safety in a camp environment surrounded by houseing developments, Luckenbill said, but will not make any decisions without input from its membership.
  "(The offer) is being considered because the board has a responsibility to safeguard our girls," she said. " The board is going to take a look at whats's in the best interest for the over 9,000 volunteers and 23,000 girls. No decisions are going to be made quickly about anything concerning the camp."
  The board is gathering information from membership and looking at the houseing development situation and current camp use. In response to questions and concerns from its membership, Luckenbill said the council added an update on the Camp Timber Hill situation to its Website, www.grgsc.org.
  If the offer is accepted, Schraffenberger said, Dixon could develop about 100 higher-end single family homes on the property.
  "There's definately a market here," he said of Fairfield Township. " We found that there are alot of people who want to stay in Fairfield schools," he said.
  The next step for the Girl Scouts is to consider how to involve more members in the discussion at the Feb. 1 delagate meeting. No decision about Camp Timber Hill will be made at the January board meeting, Luckenbill said.

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The following info was posted on the Great Rivers Council website  Januaray 5th, 2003
 

CAMP TIMBERHILL UPDATE

Girl Scouts Great Rivers Councils
Camp Timberhill is not currently for sale. An unsolicited offer has been received for the camp, which is located in Hamilton, Ohio. Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council owns four camp properties and, from time to time, receives an inquiry regarding those properties.

The sale of a council property is a matter ultimately decided by Girl Scouts Great Rivers Councils board of directors. Such a decision is always based upon the safety and programmatic needs of all Girl Scouts in Great Rivers Council. As a part of our governance process, input is solicited from our membership on major issues affecting the council, such as the sale of property. 
 

 Camp Timberhill Timeline

NOVEMBER
Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council was contacted by a developer to let us know that they were in negotiation for 2 lots adjacent to Camp Timberhill and that they plan to build 110 single-family units on the first 60-acre site and will likely replicate this on the second 61-acre site.
This information was communicated to the board of directors, along with some basic information about current camp usage.
The board asked Barbara J. Bonifas, Executive Director, to gather additional information about our options, including initial input from volunteers, and to report back to them in January. A key concern was maintaining girl safety in a camp environment surrounded by housing developments.

DECEMBER
In early December, an unsolicited purchase offer for
Camp Timberhill was received. On December 16th a small group of volunteers was convened to gather their input regarding Camp Timberhill. The objectives of this meeting were:
1. To review and assess the implications of the surrounding development on the future of
Camp Timberhill.
2. To consider the impact of keeping or selling
Camp Timberhill.
3. To provide input for maintaining a dialogue with volunteers, to ensure the continued integrity of Girl Scout camping in Great Rivers Council.

The group was asked to keep this information confidential, not to hide anything, but rather to give the board the opportunity to develop a process and to provide accurate information to best involve and consider the needs of all members.

JANUARY
Two of the volunteers in attendance at the December 16th meeting breached confidentiality and acted outside the process, sharing some inaccurate information. They did not communicate their concerns directly with Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council prior to organizing a news event and a community meeting.

On January 2nd, Barbara J. Bonifas, Executive Director, and Nancy Dawes, President of Girl Scouts Great Rivers Councils Board of Directors, received e-mail correspondence (sent January 1st, a holiday) regarding these concerns. Attached (beneath this article) are their responses, dated January 2nd.

The issue was showcased on the Channel 5 news on January 2nd.

NEXT STEPS

The board will receive an information update at the January board meeting, and will consider next steps for involving Girl Scout members, including discussion at the delegate meeting on February 1st. No decision about the future of
Camp Timberhill will be made at the January board meeting.
Girl Scouting is for all girls. The Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council Board of Directors, in its wisdom, has been elected to make decisions in the best interests of the health and safety of all girls, within the framework of the council mission and goals.

 Executive Director Response

January 2, 2003

Dear NAME DELETED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY,
I was very surprised and concerned regarding your e-mail dated
December 31, 2002. The primary purpose of the December 16 meeting was to invite key volunteers to provide initial input to the board about the status of Camp Timberhill and the process to be used for volunteer input. At the meeting, all participants were asked to honor the confidentiality of the discussion in order to give the board time to develop next steps for further investigation and communication with the membership about the status of Camp Timberhill.

This meeting was the start of an evolving process. As you will recall, the meeting purpose and objectives were:
MEETING PURPOSE:
To review and discuss the implications of a surrounding housing development on the future of Camp Timberhill, including making recommendations for a process for additional volunteer communication and input.
MEETING OBJECTIVES:
1. To review and assess the implications of the surrounding development on the future of
Camp Timberhill.
2. To consider the impact of keeping or selling
Camp Timberhill
3. To provide input for maintaining a dialogue with volunteers, to ensure the continued integrity of Girl Scout camping here at Great Rivers Council.

As you are aware, the group went through a process that included identifying alternatives to best respond to the pending development around
Camp Timberhill, then evaluating the alternatives against criteria. All input from the group was documented, and will be given to the board, as one piece of the information to be used in this investigative process.

Confidentiality was requested at this point in the process, not to keep any information hidden, but rather to enable the board to develop a process and to provide accurate information to best involve and consider the needs of all members. As a successful troop leader and day camp director, we trusted you to keep your word and maintain the integrity of this process. Through your action in calling this meeting about
Camp Timberhill, you have not given the board the opportunity to do its job. Furthermore, misinformation has already been disseminated to volunteers and the media.

Girl Scouting is for all girls. The board, in its wisdom, has been elected to make decisions in the best interests of the health and safety of all girls, within the framework of the council mission and goals. We must all work from our established democratic procedures in order to equitably involve volunteers and to best serve the needs and interests of our 23, 469 girls.

Sincerely,
Barbara J. Bonifas
Executive Director

President Response

January 2, 2003


Dear NAME DELETED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY:
Subject: Memo Possible Sale of Camp Timber Hill, dated Jan 1, 2003

Im writing in response to your Jan 1, 2003 memo possible sale of Camp Timber Hill.
I appreciate your involvement as a Girl Scout volunteer attending the meeting held on
Dec. 16, 2002 concerning Camp Timberhill. This volunteer meeting was a result of a Board request in our Nov 20, 2002 Board Meeting where the board directed Barbara to investigate our options for this property (i.e. Camp Timberhill), including meeting with volunteers, and to report back with recommendations. At the Nov 20th Board meeting, the information available was that Dixon Constructions plans to build 200 single-family units on the first 60-acres site and will likely replicate this on a second 61 acre site, parcels of land that are immediately to the west and south of Camp Timberhill. Since that time, Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council has received an unsolicited actual purchase offer for the property.As I understand, the purpose of the Dec 16th meeting was
1. To review and assess the implications of the surrounding development on the future of
Camp Timberhill.
2. To consider the impact of keeping or selling
Camp Timberhill
3. To provide input for maintaining a dialogue with volunteers, to ensure the continued integrity of Girl Scout camping here at Great Rivers Council.

The information from the Dec 16 meeting was documented with the intent of giving it to the board, as one piece of information to be used in our evaluation/decision process. (To be clear, a decision to sell/not sell the property is NOT on the January Board agenda.)
With regards to your memo to me, I agree it is vital the Board receive a representative view from our membership regarding this issue, especially utilizing a process that provides an opportunity for ALL 9000 members to provide input into our decision, should they choose to do so.
Whereas I applaud your enthusiasm and interest in this issue, I cannot support Board attendance at the Jan 6th meeting, as your current information does not accurately represent the Board position nor have you given the Board the opportunity to do its job of establishing procedures to insure we both get and share complete and accurate information. As you know, one of the great strengths of Girl Scouting is use of our democratic process wherein we allow all voices to be heard.
That said, forwarding a summary of input from your Jan 6th meeting to the Board would be appropriate, as that is within our clearly established communication policy, (Council Communication Policy, Adult Resource Manual, A-8 and 9) and information regarding this type of Board Policy issue should be directed to the Board through the Girl Scout office.
Given that the Board will not be in attendance at the Jan 6th meeting, I request that you share this letter with those in attendance so they clearly understand the reasoning.

Sincerely,
Nancy C. Dawes
President, Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council

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January 7, 2003

Girl Scout camp focus of land battle

FAIRFIELD TOWNSHIP- More than 100 Girl Scouts, leaders, parents and community members met Monday evening at a local church to help save Camp Timber Hill following a real estate developers offer to buy the site from the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council.

We want Camp Timber Hill to stay there because we like it, said 10-year-old Leanna Smith of Fairfield Township. Smith, a member of Troop 5840, made signs on fluorescent-colored poster board to help save the camp, a 58-acre camp located of Ohio 4 in Fairfield Township. At the bottom of one of her posters, she drew activities, such as hiking and roasting marshmallows at camp fires, that are important to her.

Her mother, Troop 5840 Leader Jan Smith, said she will have her troop of 12 girls write letters to the board of directors for the council. Were going to have the girls write letters expressing what Camp Timber Hill means to them and why they want to keep it, she said.

Meeting organizers and local leaders Kris Roselle, Patti McDonald and John Lawson encouraged scouts, parents and community members to also write letters to the board to let its members know the scouts and others oppose the sale.

Rachel LeMaster, 12, of Hamilton, member of  Troop 834, said she too wants to save the camp following a December proposal by Dixon Builders to purchase the property for $1.14 million, or about $20,000 per acre. The camp is not on the market, according to the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council, but the offer is being considered because of concerns over proposed housing developments on two 60-acre sites that abut the property, Roni Luckenbill, assistant executive director, said on Friday. Concerns raised include fears of increased vandalism and safety for the girls.

The purpose of Monday nights meeting was to make sure local scouts are aware of the potential sale, and to let council delegates know the majority of scouts do not want to lose the camp, said Roselle, of Fairfield. The meeting, which was videotaped, will be summarized and sent to board members, said McDonald.

Many of those in attendance asked questions they would like the board to answer, such as whether there is any evidence of increased vandalism or safety issues at other camps near housing developments, what would be done with money from the sale, and where would the Butler County troops go if the camp closed. Suggestions made to Roselle and McDonald, who attended a Dec. 16 meeting about the potential sale, was for troops to move camps to the three other camps two are in Warren County and one in eastern Indiana. But thats too far for many Butler County girls to go, Roselle said after talking with several area troop leaders. So far more of them have been unwilling to travel that far, she said.

Another suggestion made was for the camps to use public parks, which Roselle said would likely limit camp programs because not all parks have creeks, overnight facilities or open/reserved spaces. Although one of the smallest camps in the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council, it is certainly not the least used camp in our council, Roselle said. In 2001, more than 2,500 girls attended four day camps at Camp Timber Hill. This represents about 10 percent of the 23,000 council membership, she said. And due to increasing demand, a fifth camp is planned for the summer of 2004. If the sale goes through, however, the camp will remain open for this coming summer, Roselle said.

If the concern is that the camp will be surrounded by housing, the heart of the camp with the buildings, shelter and activity areas is inside a 10-acre buffer zone to the properties, Lawson said. There is enough land that we can have a 10-acre buffer zone around Camp Timber Hill, he said. A Feb. 1 meeting is scheduled for delegates and board members.

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Send your letters to the BOARD OF DIRECTORS

Girl Scouts Great Rivers Council, Inc.
 
BOARD OF DIRECTORS 2002-2003
 
Nancy C. Dawes-President, Great Rivers Girl Scout Council, Inc.
Catherine Ingram-1st Vice President
Suzanne Constandi-2nd Vice President
 
Members-at-Large
 
Holly Bader, Dwinelva Black, Grace Martinez Bunker,
Maria Carver, Ethel Cormier, Margaret Drexel,
Sue Haverkos, Majorie L. Holbrook, Ruth Jones,
Arlene Heines Katz, Pamela King, Mary Ann Knoop,
Kathryn "Kathy" McMullen, Janet Volz Ross,
Mary "Kandi" Staples, Tommie Thompson, Margie Toy,
Patrick Tribbe, Jody Wainscott, Barbara Weisiger
 
Barbara J. Bonifas, Executive Director Great Rivers Girl Scout Council
 
GIRL SCOUTS-GREAT RIVERS COUNCIL, INC.
4903 Cornell Road, Cincinnati, OH 45242-1809
513-489-1025 or 1-800-537-6241 FAX: 513-489-1417
 
Send correspondence to: Nancy C. Dawes @ address above
Send certified mail
Ask for President to share your correspondence with her entire Board***Ask for a reply***
 
NEXT BOARD MEETING: January 15, February 19, March 19...
 
 
 

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Developers Want To Buy Land Used As Girl Scout Camp

Some local Girl Scouts have more than selling cookies to worry about.

They're worried their favorite camp site will be sold to a developer.

A developer has offered the girl scout council more than one million dollars for Camp Timber Hill in Fairfield Township.

Girl Scout officials said the 60-acre camp is not for sale but they're considering the deal because a housing development has been proposed on neighboring land.

Local girl scouts and their parents plan to write letters to scout council leaders, encouraging them to keep the camp

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The entrance to Camp Timber Hill
(WCPO/WCPO.com)

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January 10, 2003
 

Girl Scout camp could be sold; Possible loss of Timber Hill protested

By Joseph Roberts

Day camps would be compromised or unavailable for Middletown area Girl Scouts, their leaders say, if the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council sells Camp Timber Hill. Many leaders and scouts are writing letters to the council to voice their objection to a developers proposal to buy the 58-acre camp, on Ohio 4 in Fairfield Township, for $1.14 million.

The Nova Service Unit which includes scouts in Middletown and Monroe is also encouraging its delegates to speak against the sale if it is discussed next month at a meeting with the councils board of directors.

Among other things, Timber Hill is used as the site of summer day camps. More than 200 scouts from the Nova and Manuka units the latter including Trenton and Madison Township scouts participated in the five-day program last year. It provides an opportunity for these girls to be in that natural setting, Nova Service Unit Manager Martina Slone said. Its just a whole lot of fun for the kids, and theyre outdoors the entire time, and thats something kids dont do as much as they used to.

Timber Hill is the only camp the council owns in Butler County. Marie Snelling, a former day camp director who has been active in scouts for 30 years, said many girls would not be able to participate if they had to travel to other council-owned camps in Warren County or eastern Indiana. Were not talking about dollars and cents, were talking about opportunity and availability, she said.

Another option, if Timber Hill is sold, would be to have the day camps at public parks. There would be some definite limitations in what wed be able to do, Slone said. She said leaders would have no control over who goes in and out of the park and they would have to worry about traffic.

Leaders also noted Camp Timber Hill has running water, a creek, wooded areas, a lodge, tents; and allows scouts to participate in activities like hiking, archery and studying plants. Jackie Ponder, Manukas service unit manager, said eliminating or damaging the day camp program could even harm the Scouts membership figures.

Right now its really hard to keep older girls involved in Girl Scouts, she said. Those that stay really look forward to doing the summer camps. Older scouts help facilitate the program.

According to the council, the camp is not on the market, but the offer is being considered because concerns raised by proposed housing developments that would abut it. Ponder rejected that concern, saying there are residences near Camp Butterworth south of Mason. Its right in the middle of a housing development and it has a public bike path going right through camp, she said.

Snelling said Camp Timber Hill would be difficult to replace, even with $1.14 million. Where else in the area do we have 58 acres that we can afford? she asked.

Published 01.10.03

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January 22, 2003

Ancestor of land donor concerned about Girl Scout camp

By Patricia Stirnkorb

FAIRFIELD -Most people driving by hardly notice the small wooden sign on Ohio 4 that marks the spot of Camp Timberhill. But the possibility that the camp will be sold and its land covered with homes has many upset. Chief among them is the granddaughter of the family who donated the land to the Girl Scouts in 1949 Debra Thompson.

I know that my grandparents had no intention of the property ever being used as anything other than a camp or a park. Thats why they gave it to the Girl Scouts, Thompson said of Mildred S. and Earl Van Horn Thompson Sr. Debra Thompson is one of the two last members of the family living in the area.

In November, Dixon Builders made an offer to the Great Rivers Girl Scout Council to purchase the 58-acre wooded plot for $20,00 per acre. Two other plots of land adjacent to Timberhill are also under consideration for purchase by Dixon.The combination of the three pieces of property would be used to build single-family homes.

Since the Thompson family bequeathed the land to the scouts in 1949, they have used the camp for weekend and overnight camping and summer day camps. It was used by 2,580 campers in 2001. The property was once part of a larger parcel of land owned by the Thompson family. The family also owned an iron foundry in Hamilton and were well connected to the community in many ways.My grandparents had a home in town, what is now the Brown and Dawson Funeral home on Pershing Avenue, and then they had the farm, which is now where the camp is located, Thompson said. One of the reasons why they gave it to the scouts was so that city girls could experience the country atmosphere, wading in creeks, hiking and catching frogs, things that scouts do. They surely did not want it to become a subdivision.

According to Thompson, a condition of the gift was that the camp would stay as property of the Girl Scouts for at least 50 years. That expired in 1999, opening it up for other uses. They didnt have the term greenspace back then, Thompson said, But that is what the intention was. We have discussed it among our family, all of whom live out of town, and everyone is very upset. We intend to write letters and do whatever we can to make sure it stays a camp.

On Dec. 16, a small group of volunteers met with Barbara J. Bonifas, executive director of Great Rivers Girl Scout Council, to discuss the offer from Dixon Builders. One of the questions being raised is the security of the scouts if there are subdivisions built around the camp. We receive inquires on all of our camps at one time or another, Bonifas said. We explore the options and consider each offer individually. Thats what we will do here. But technically, the camp is not for sale.

Once word got out that an offer had been made on the camp, local volunteers and delegates were upset that it had not been presented to them. However, according to Bonifas, plans and steps had not been formulated when news of the offer was discussed in the media. In a letter on the Web site, Bonifas says in part, Confidentiality was requested, not to keep any information hidden, but to enable the board to develop a process and to provide accurate information to best involve and consider the needs of all members.

A delegate meeting will be held on Feb. 1 and discussion of the future of the camp will be discussed at that time. As of now, our position has not changed, Bonifas said. We want to do what is best for the girls. There is a lot to be considered. We are looking at the greenspace issue, the fun that the scouts have, and then we have to add in the safety factor. Does having those homes around the camp make it less safe? At this point we just dont know. We havent gathered enough information to make a determination.

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Saturday, February 1, 2003

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Timber Hill Girl Scout Camp won't become housing tract
For the Journal News By Patricia Stirnkorb

FAIRFIELD TOWNSHIP - An offer that would have turned a Fairfield Township  Girl Scout camp into houses has expired. Earlier this year, Dixon Builders expressed interest in purchasing Camp Timber Hill, a 58-acre tract of woods and valleys off Ohio 4. The offer sparked an outcry from Girl Scout leaders, parents, Scouts and even relatives of the family who originally donated the land. As of Monday, Dixon's offer had expired without agreement, said Barbara Bonifas, executive director of Great Rivers Girl Scout Council. But, she said, the threat to the camp remains, as housing developments and other projects encroach on the once-isolated land. "We look at each camp, whether it is Timber Hill, Stony Brook or Butterworth and ask the same questions: Are we providing a safe environment and quality programs for our Scouts?" Bonifas said they are in the process of seeking input from all of their volunteers regarding these issues. While nothing out of the ordinary has ever happened at Timber Hill, two years
ago the county put in new sewer lines and the workers and equipment were very disruptive, she said. "We know, however, that it was disruptive. We found that from our volunteers, and we coordinated with the county for the best time to do the work when the girls were not present," Bonifas said.
  Representatives from Dixon Builders declined to comment on the situation with Camp Timber Hill. In January, the company offered the council $20,000 per acre for the property, officials said. According to their first plans, they had hoped to develop the property into single-family housing. Two other pieces of property in the area, one 61-acre tract and one 60-acre tract were also under consideration by Dixon, but Timber Hill is adjacent to the parcels. Other activity in the area includes a 90-acre tract that is owned by Butler
County MetroParks. They recently granted permission for it to be used as an
outdoor drama theater. It lies between Rentschler Forest and Timber Hill.

Jen Roppel
JournalNews
jroppel@coxohio.com
513-863-8200 X181
FAX 513-896-9489

Outdoor drama one part of project scope

By Jen Roppel

FAIRFIELD TOWNSHIP The idea of an outdoor drama theater has burgeoned into a project that could achieve national prominence, civic and community leaders say. Butler County would become a destination, and we think we have a dynamic conceptual mix to make that happen, said local commercial developer Randall Herbst. Plans for an outdoor amphitheater and dining complex on 90 acres of Butler MetroParks property along Ohio 4 between Hamilton and Middletown in Fairfield Township have now grown to include a complex devoted to the arts and sciences, he said. The complex could encompass an indoor theater, a horse park and a working replica of Fort Hamilton, Herbst said.

A group of many community members, investors and local and state public officials are visualizing this project potentially as a national institute for performing arts, humanities and equine showmanship, he said. The possibilities are really quite endless, Herbst added. This is not being viewed as a sole city, county or regional project thats where the vision started. It is now a project of national vision and scope. Once completed, the facility could generate revenues in the tens of millions of dollars for the county. It also could lead to the creation of several hundreds of jobs, and would make the region more marketable, he said.

Last month, the Fairfield Area Outdoor Drama steering committee announced plans to build an outdoor theater complex. The complex would be in Fairfield Township between Rentschler Forest Preserve and the Camp Timberhill Girl Scouts site. It would also be across from Butler Technology and Career Development Schools D. Russel Lee Career Technology Center.

The proposal, which was presented to the Butler County Commission and the Fairfield City Council, calls for the construction of an outdoor drama facility to run a play that captures the history and heritage of the county, said steering committee member Sterling Uhler. The play, which has yet to be written, will center around the Civil War era in Butler County. The play would focus on stories about such notables as the Moon Sisters, Morgans Raiders and Gen. Ambrose Burnside, said Uhler.

Now, Herbst said, the outdoor drama theater is just one part of much larger development that he said he would like to see complete by the summer of 2005. What began in the spring of 2000 as an outdoor drama has now attracted interest in further developing it to a point of national prominence. It will involve private and public enterprise in tandem, said Herbst of the project that would complement the culture of the Cincinnati/Dayton market. Butler County Commission President Mike Fox said he and many other community members, private investors, and local and state government officials are exploring project options. Were bringing together a number of groups and individuals that have an interest in the project, he said.

Last week Fox, along with representatives of area groups and investors, traveled to Paxton Farms horse park in nearby Clermont County. Still in the discussion phase, Fox said there is growing interest and excitement in the proposal from both the public and private sectors. We envision a facility that would be a combination facility with a theater, indoor and outdoor performing arts and a facility like the Kentucky Horse Park that has equestrian offerings, he said. Were definitely interested in doing it and were committed to moving forward.

An entertainment park for the arts, humanities and sciences would be a welcome addition to Fairfield Township, said Ron Randolph, township administrator. I think its very positive for the community, he said. I think it enhances the aesthetics of the community by bringing in something of a theatrical nature and it does bring additional jobs to the township.

Getting the project off the ground comes down to dollars and cents, Fox said. Funding is going to be the toughest piece of this, he said. Were looking at the possibility of capturing some of the tourism dollars that come from the hotel tax. Were researching that right now. The commissioners are considering a 3 percent lodging tax for hotel guests to fund the tourism-related project, Fox said.

Uhler, in his presentation to Fairfield council members, said other suggestions made to the commissioners include the creation of an official Butler County convention and visitors bureau and the possible purchase of an additional 59 acres east of the proposed site. According to a feasibility study by the Institute of Outdoor Drama in North Carolina, operating costs for the theater alone are estimated at $760,000 with annual revenues at $830,000 based on a conservative attendance, Uhler told Fairfield council members. The steering committee has recently received a $100,000 state grant to help fund a study, facility design and a playwright.

Project details, such as schematic designs, design plans, costs and revenues associated with the facility are further down the road, said Herbst.

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Communication Process

Camp Timber Hill -- Support Information

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On February 26, 2003 Mike Muska (Director, Butler County Metro Parks), Eric Hollins (Representative of Three Valley Conservation Trust), Suellyn Shupe (Past GS-GRC,Inc. Board Member), and John Lawson (Vice President, Fairfield Footlighters) presented updated information concerning property immediately to the West and South of Camp Timber Hill to GS-GRC, Inc. Board of Directors. Kris Roselle (Site Director, GS-GRC,Inc. Day Camp VIII-b) was also present.  Approximately 13 Board Members and Senior Staff listened to the presentation, including Nancy C. Dawes (GS-GRC,Inc. Board President), Barbara J. Bonifas (GS-GRC,Inc. Executive Director) and Susan Osborn (GS, GRC,Inc. Assistant Executive Director).
 
Presentation included
  1. Outdoor Drama Theatre is being built on property owned by Metro Parks.
  2. Metro Parks is in the process of purchasing property immediately West of Timber Hill where proposed riding stables/horse park will be built.
  3. Property immediately to the South of Timber Hill is in Probate Court for an unspecified length of time.  When estate is settled Metro Parks is interested in purchasing this piece of property also.
  4. Government $ available to purchase development rights of Timber Hill.  In very simple terms this means our Council would receive $ from government.  In exchange Council can not sell property to developer (has to remain green space).  TH would remain property of our Council and they could still sell as park, camp ground, etc.
Other key facts to consider before completing survey:
  • 2 proposed subdivisions mentioned in TIMBER HILL SUPPORT INFORMATION will NOT be built.
  • Rentschler Forest Preserve is located immediately West of Outdoor Drama Theatre.
  • Proposed Bike Path will be built behind Timber Hill along River.
  • Great program links for Timber Hill with horses and theatre within walking distance.
  • Timber Hill is not the least used camp in our Council - Laudigrau is.
  • Camp income vs. camp expenses is comparable to other camps in our Council.
  • Camp usage at TH was 2,580 in 2001.  3,220 in 2002.  An increase of 640.
  • Well problem has been fixed at Timber Hill.  New well installed in 2001.
  • Ranger created additional parking in 2002.
  • It is true Camp Timber Hill is used by many younger Girl Scouts, but also by many older GS who act as PA's at Day Camp (good retention tool).
  • It is true ranger is part-time.  However, FF Township Police are only 1 minute away. 

Camp Safety - Discussion Question Summary

Service Unit Name: 

Submitted by:

What would it take to maintain a safe environment for girls to participate in the Girl Scout program at camp?

What principles and guidelines should be used to address these property issues?

How much responsibility for safety is appropriate for adult leaders/volunteers to assume?

"If members of your service unit are interested in participating in the discussion forums, please follow the instructions below, as outlined in the Discussion Forum Information sheet distributed through roundtable:

As noted in the communication process timeline, volunteers will have an additional opportunity for input through the following discussion forums:

April 1, 2003 at 6:30 pm
Blue Ash Recreation Center, 4433 Cooper Rd. (Near Cooper Rd. and Reed Hartman Hwy.)

April 9, 2003 at 6:30 pm
White Oak Presbyterian Church, 8735 Cheviot Rd.

If a volunteer from your service unit is planning to attend, please ask him or her to R.S.V.P. by calling or e-mailing Hope Schultz, at the Girl Scout Office, extension 102, (hschultz@grgsc.org) with their name, service unit, phone number, and the meeting that they plan to attend.

 

 

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